Almost a year of delving into the world of internet dating I’m still yet to make it work for me. No matter how many times I change my profile I still don’t seem to get it right. In a quest to learn more about what makes people tick I began reading forums about dating and online dating and the themes generally seem to be the same. The whole concept is fake. It’s superficial but we’re addicted to it.
Internet dating is nothing new. It’s been around since the tones of a dial up modem was music to our ears. The internet was the new postal service. Pen pals became online friends. The long distance romance became possible without ever meeting. Still there is a stigma around meeting strangers from the internet and when things go badly under these circumstances society is often quick to jump to victim blaming. Just read the comments on any news article about an internet dating experience ending in assault or murder, often, but not always, the woman is the victim, and people condemn her for her risky and reckless behaviour. All strangers are serial killers! the people will shout, despite knowing what we know about sociopathic behaviour. Charles Manson was quite the charming friend of many before he killed them.
We meet strangers all the time in our daily lives. Walking in our neighbourhood, on the bus, in cafes, the doctor’s waiting room. If I were to be murdered by a man who struck up a conversation with me in the waiting room of my GP society would be far more sympathetic than if I had met up with a man from an online dating service, but there is very little difference. Dating unfortunately, is a risk we take to meet someone we may want to share a life with, but there are things we can do to improve our safety. Never meet someone in a private or secluded place, always public. Never go without someone knowing where you are. Have a safety contact plan. I call it a safe call buddy. Someone who knows where you’re going to be and makes that timely call, usually half an hour in just to check that you’re okay and don’t need an escape plan. Followed up by another call or even just a text another half hour later. Mine is a code. Someone, usually my son, calls me to ask if I can get milk on my way home. A yes that’s fine I can do that response means everything is okay. No sorry I don’t think I can means come and get me. And we have used the No response more than once. He turns up with a family emergency if I haven’t found a way to get away from the date.
There are so many things we do daily that are fraught with danger. It’s all about risk management. It would help to hold violent and predatory people accountable for their behaviour too rather than expecting victims to change theirs.
I had recently finished reading Fake by Stephanie Wood (amazing read by the way) and I wondered after having shared online dating experiences with so many women who had been through similar and sharing my own experience in my short story on Patreon, Red Flags, I was curious about what men experienced in online dating. Surely women were not always the prey that became the victims.
Of course men fall prey to predatory behaviour online. Not always to women. Fake accounts running love scams fleecing lonely unsuspecting men out of their life savings. However after some conversations I’ve found men and women seem to have the similar issues in working out how to connect online.
Deep in the Reddit rabbit hole reading threads of the Ask Men section (yeah there’s an ask men section and it’s both hilarious and stomach churning) I found men complaining of the same things I complain of. Initiating contact with a Hi message, using snapchat filters on their photos (guys it’s even weirder when you do it), one word replies, having to steer the entire conversation. And that’s all before the first date!
First date stories are just as bad if not worse. I’ve asked guys for their worst first date stories and while not surprised by the predatory and poor behaviour of some women, I was bewildered at the experiences. Andy is in his forties and recently went on a date with a women where they met in a shopping centre for the intention of coffee but she took him to a pet store. While there she asked him if she purchased an electric anti barking collar would he wear it while they had sex. “I’m not against trying new things but there’s a difference between kinky and get me the fuck out of here!” he told me.
Jason is 47 and thought he’d given online dating a second chance a year after his disastrous first date where he invited a woman to his home to cook for her and after a bottle of wine she “tried to rape” him. “I thought I was just being polite but she assumed the invitation was for sex and wasn’t friendly about being rejected.” he said. The night ended in his neighbours calling police when she started throwing things around his house.
So it’s out there, women can behave just as badly as men. Statistically though women fear meeting men the first time than men fear meeting women.
Bad behaviour isn’t restricted to heterosexuals either. Liam is gay and trying to meet the right one after his partner of 8 years left him for a younger man. He accepted an invitation to meet up with a man for dinner at a nice restaurant in the city. It all seemed to be going well when they split the bill and his date said he’d meet him in the toilets. Once it dawned on Liam that sex was the intention, in the toilets of all places he tried to make a beeline for the door and his date became aggressive trying to grab him to persuade him to go into the toilets with him. If it weren’t for the intervention of a very astute waiter Liam was worried about how it was going to end.
Janey, an optimistic 24 year old was trying to be open minded when she met an older woman at a cafe. Until the older woman’s husband turned up and they propositioned her for a threesome. “It felt so cheap but it was the assumption that because I’m a lesbian that I would be happy to be the entertainment that made me angry.”
One of the most common themes I found amongst the complaints from men is not knowing if she’s interested. I have felt this experience also and many women complain of the same thing. “You can be chatting for days and have no idea if she’s keen or not when it becomes one word answers” one poster complained. I mean I’m hearing you. In my quest to expand my options I thought I’d try a few different apps only to discover mostly, it’s the same men on all the different platforms, have the same men match with me on the various platforms and yet still no real connection.
My first experience was Rob who lived not far from me and talked to me for three days when I finally suggested maybe we could grab dinner or something some time and meet in person to which he indicated he’d be interested. The next day he asked what I was doing, and I said I was relaxing in the pool. He suggested I should come over to his pool with a bottle of wine. I told him I don’t drive. It wasn’t as easy as jumping in my car like he could. He told me to get an Uber. I said I’d prefer to meet in a public space first. I was oblivious to the intent of the bottle of wine. Eventually frustrated by the fact I wasn’t getting the hints he said “Look I’ll be honest here, I’m just looking for no strings attached sex. Maybe a friend with benefits. So if you’re keen to come over have a few drinks, relax and have a good time then I’m here.” I told him thanks for wasting my time. Three days! Talking to me like he was interested in me as a person and all it turned out was that I’m a vagina with a pretty face. He said sorry. I told him don’t be sorry, be better. He’s still on there lurking around looking for his no committed relationship.
There was Dave the bus driver who I’d matched with every time I decided to try again after deleting my account in disgust. We finally arranged to meet after months of chatting to the point where I would ask how are the kids and he cancelled on me last minute. We had even exchanged phone numbers which isn’t something I do easily. He cancelled by text saying “Sorry I can’t make it I hope you understand.” I didn’t really because there was no explanation offered before or after I replied that I hoped everything was okay. I see him there now still, updated profile and new photos, and I refuse to swipe right on him anymore.
Andrew who had arranged a coffee date with me but had to postpone because he caught a cold (which I really appreciated that he didn’t just turn up sick cos that has happened too) but never accepted the offer to reschedule, then when matching on a different platform accused me of stalking him.
So many times conversations go remarkably well which is so relieving when you’re dealing with being propositioned for a cheap and nasty sexual encounter on a daily basis, and you think there could be something in it when suddenly it just dies. You’re trying to revive the contact and it’s just one word answers or no response at all. I’ve labelled it being friend zoned.
But there are so many conversations that I just don’t go there with and I’m wondering if the Ask Men of Reddit realise why women aren’t so responsive. The Hey Gorgeous/Beautiful/Sexy contact. If they could see how hard my eyes roll when I read this they’d step away thinking I was possessed. Flattery greetings are so cliche. So often they end up being the guys who just proposition me for sex anyway. The ones who assume that being a single woman in her 40s must be lonely and desperate so it will be easy to get them into bed with them. They get a rude shock when they discover just how badass I really am.
I find it difficult to show interest because the predatory behaviour has put me on guard all the time. If I show interest is he going to assume it means we’re having sex? That disappointing bomb drop when they finally get the courage to ask you to satisfy their desires and you start thinking you must be really uninteresting if all you’re good for is meaningless sex.
So guys, I know so many of you are out there genuinely trying but if we’re not showing interest it could be that we’re just not that into you, or it could be that we’re terrified your interest in us is more sinister than meeting for coffee. It’s not you it’s me.